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March 1, 2025
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Paid foreign tax credit on pension paid by foreign country not working !

  • March 1, 2025
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I have been at this for several DAYS now and nothing seems to work.

 

I am paid a pension by a foreign government that I need to report.  This pension is earned income based on employment history in the foreign country that I used to live in more than 20 years ago.  There is an international bi-lateral tax agreement between said country and the U.S., to prevent double-taxation.  Only the country where I used to live have the right to tax the pension I am getting although I am under the obligation to report it as income to the IRS. The foreign entity paying the pension does not have a 1099-R form.  Even filing a "Substitute 1099-R" won't work as TT (Home & Biz) asks me to fill in fields that can't be done as there is NO 1099-R form to be had.   The software seems to think I HAVE the 1099-R which I don't have.

 

Method 1:

I have tried to report the foreign paid pension under foreign income section as per described above, but that is not possible.  The Substitute 1099-R form seems to assume that I am reporting income from an IRA distribution which is not the case.  Leaving a slew of fields blank drives TT crazy so this method simply does not work.

Method 2:

Trying to report the foreign paid pension under "Miscellaneous" or "Other income" works BUT, I can't take a Foreign Tax Credit using this method.   Reason being that the foreign tax credit can't be taken against income that is NOT reported under the Foreign Income section.

 

Am I the only individual in the universe receiving a pension from a foreign country who can't properly file taxes using TT Home & Biz?

 

JJ

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March 1, 2025

Do you have any foreign income frm a 1099 or a K-1 as this influences the screen presentations?

juham2013Author
March 2, 2025

The only foreign income that I have reported is very modest dividends from company shares I own.  

 

I also fell to thinking that this sort of income should be termed "foreign social security income" as said income wasn't accrued by plowing a portion of my salary into a 401(k) or anything like that.  The "pension" from overseas could be likened to "social security payments" here in the U.S.

 

The issue is not really that I can't report this income BUT rather the impossibility of claiming a tax credit on this income.  The international tax treaty between the U.S. and the country where I was born also stipulates that this income is not taxable by the IRS.  Of course, I am obligated to report the income to the IRS and the tax credit that I am due will more than likely NOT make any difference in the amount of total taxes we pay here in the U.S.  We're filing married jointly.

 

Thank you so much!

 

JJ

March 2, 2025

Is there a 1099-div issued and tax paid in box 7?